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The Hacker Mind Podcast: Hacking Real World Criminals Online

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So he invites me to go to a book that, you know, one of those first black hats and Doug Song was set doing his thing on checkpoint firewall bypass, and I'm sitting there, and a guy named Jeff Nathan. And then, you know, not pay any fair, fair market prices on any consulting. I was living in Alameda off of the Navy base there.